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Title: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: harleyman1955 on February 21, 2016, 04:05:43 PM
Hi,  I'm wondering if OTSDJ has run its course .  Havent seen any updates in awhile.  If it has, I'm still very satisfied with the product. I use
it daily.  I was hoping for a update that would allow me to import mp4 videos, and allow me to convert my ots videos back to the mp4 format.
Also a good way to clean out duplicates from the library. Does anyone know if we have seen the last upgrade for this Program?  If anyone has solutions for my wish items, I would love to try them out.   thank you

Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: harleyman1955 on February 21, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
correction   OTSAV not OTSDJ,,, I'm a old timer
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Jumpin' Jeff on February 22, 2016, 03:08:56 AM
Well, I would guess it's not finished, but I would also say it might be a while before the next release also. Not much help, I know.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Jigger on February 22, 2016, 05:41:48 AM
If only we knew what is happening with Ots it would be nice to get some upgrades, maybe Ots Steve could post what is happening.
I doubt very much we will get any news.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: clover-leaf-productions on February 25, 2016, 09:45:11 PM
Perhaps they have decided if they wait long enough we will all die, and they will never have to complete 2.0. :rolling2:
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: markebenson on February 26, 2016, 06:57:53 AM
I had the mp4 problem also.  I find  this conversion software the best solution. You can batch convert and it's easy to use.

http://www.avs4you.com/AVS-Video-Converter.aspx?__c=1
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Jumpin' Jeff on February 26, 2016, 01:13:34 PM
Personally, for conversion from MP4 to MPG, I highly recommend using the Movavi Video Converter (http://www.movavi.com/videoconverter/?device=c&gclid=Cj0KEQiAjMC2BRC34oGKqY27jtkBEiQAwSXzfmxp844jRiS6CWtAIzSiz7rZ9pLwmEad8DW_plHsIScaAlbL8P8HAQ). It's much faster, as it uses all your available cores/threads, and price wise, is $39.95. That's only $.95 more than a years support of AVS, and you get much faster performance. I purchased the entire video suite (http://www.movavi.com/suite/) for $59.95.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Darryl on February 27, 2016, 09:33:38 AM
I'm a fan of TMPGEnc Video Mastering Works.  Lots of functionality for $122.00 with some deals for existing customers to upgrade for less.  It's more expensive that Movavi and I'll be honest I found and bought TMPGEnc before I heard about Movavi.   They both have free trial versions though so someone with spare time could compare them for performance.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: nextgen1 on February 29, 2016, 03:43:15 AM
I've been moving away from OTS for about 3 months now. Since I have also been an owner of Virtual DJ for over 10 years. I figured its time to give it a try again. I'm not going to lie the idea of learning a new software to DJ with causes me much concern. But OTS is just being left in the dust and offers me nothing I can't with VDJ or a plugin. The updates which are awesome just keep coming in. I'm not trying to put down OTS here but it's obvious that really don't care that much.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Jumpin' Jeff on February 29, 2016, 06:04:45 PM
Darryl, I have a license for TMPGEnc also, but haven't used it in years. Just not as effective I guess. I bought it in 2006 for $59.95. I got some use out of it, but for the price of Movavi, and the speed of conversion, and the formats it can convert to and from, it's been my most valued tool.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Mike Sinclair on March 01, 2016, 08:11:11 PM
OTS waiting for us all to die so they don't have to finish 2.0 ...

LOL... you might be on to something there! I love OTS but there's just not enough hardware support for me. I compared the Denon MC6000mk2 to the Pioneer DDJ-SX2 and the Pioneer sounds SO much cleaner. But, as we know, Ots doesn't support many controllers. I would LOVE for there to be an announcement like "hey, we know it's been awhile, but it's because we have been working tirelessly to make OTS AV better, stronger, faster. It now works with a ****** load of controllers etc etc" haha... I know, I'm dreaming, right?
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Dj Buik on March 02, 2016, 07:24:34 PM
i am a user from day one. that was back in 1999.
i still use otsav, i love the simple user interface and thats rock solid.

But i really do not understand why it takes so long to implement the updates.
why do they not create an API ?
We can develop our own additions to otsav.

I gues i'm only dreaming  :wacko:
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: markebenson on March 03, 2016, 04:46:15 AM
They should just make it open source so we can do our own updates  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Jumpin' Jeff on March 03, 2016, 02:04:59 PM
This is how I see it.... The reason is very much like Apple. They don't want people breaking it. They want full control over what they put out.

The folks at Ots have made it their mission to provide a stable AV experience. As we found out with Milkdrop and Shoutcast plugins, they sometimes crash Ots, and that's something that they don't want. Opening it up further would surely cause more problems.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Dj Buik on March 03, 2016, 05:59:07 PM
They could release two versions. One with API with no support and no future releases, and one version with no API and with support and new releases (stable version).

Heck, i wouldt even pay an additional fee to have the API/Development version.

@OTS: How about that option?
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: markebenson on March 08, 2016, 07:00:20 AM
I do understand the "you get what you pay for idea"

I will pay more!

Please offer more upgrades.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Ots_Steve on March 30, 2016, 09:41:38 AM
Hi guys,

Thanks for your comments and ideas.

Our Dev Team is working hard on the next release. As you are aware, we prefer not to make pre-announcements on content or time-frames these days as the inflexible pressure is not conducive to our team releasing a stable, quality and complete version. When it is ready it will more than likely just be put out and an email distributed.

To answer an earlier question in this thread, yes, we develop on Windows for Windows. A Linux version would be a major undertaking as would a Mac version as to achieve the quality and stability OtsAV possesses we have had to extensively research and code for the inner workings of the Windows OS (this is proprietary methods we've developed that are not in official Microsoft documentation).

Ots_Steve



Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Jigger on March 30, 2016, 12:31:13 PM
Thank you for your post Steve, I know you don't make pre announcements, but it has been a long time, I am sure you understand people being disgruntled with waiting.
Anyway its good to hear from you.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: clover-leaf-productions on April 01, 2016, 08:23:26 PM
Steve is the Man!  It is sad we do not see him around here nearly as often as we used to see him.  Drop by anytime Mate!
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Taralocke on September 09, 2016, 11:05:25 PM
I think one thing many forget is that what we have works great. I use it for 99% of my gigs and use Serato for that other 1%. I love OTS and thankful I can still use it and it is stable. Do I want an update? Yes, I just saw the release of the new DJ-808 by Roland and Serato and if there would be a way I could DJ OTS with that! I'd gladly pay the probable insane price tag for that mixer. I'm very thankful that they have not given up on OTS and very thankful that what they have put out, works as well as it does, even without all the bells and whistles, it works and allows me to make money, for that I'm thankful and for what I do, OTS is the best program.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Jigger on September 10, 2016, 03:46:50 AM
It is a pity we don't hear from them very often, but what can we do. I agree with Cloverleaf Ots is very stable and does a good job and has served me well for many years.
Lets hope we hear something soon but I am not banking on it.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: avexglobe on November 24, 2016, 05:39:30 PM
I have wondered why updates seem very slow but I don't use it as a live DJ. I just run a "low power" (wink wink) FM station with it and it's rock solid. I can let it run for weeks on end without touching it and it just keeps on chugging along. If there never is another update I'm OK with that, but I do worry about the licensing. If for some reason the folks at OTS Labs decided to retire what would happen to us? Would we be stuck never being able to reinstall the program on a new computer because of it?

I know I'm not very active on the forum but I just wanted to stop in and say OTS has been a huge part of my life. I use it for my personal listening around the house, in the car, and live on-air. I don't know what I'd do without it.
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: mixfm on November 25, 2016, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: avexglobe on November 24, 2016, 05:39:30 PMbut I do worry about the licensing. If for some reason the folks at OTS Labs decided to retire what would happen to us? Would we be stuck never being able to reinstall the program on a new computer because of it?

I worry about that too!  That was my only concern when I bought into the Ots eco-system.  Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love the product, and I love the company.  But it's a good question to ask:  What happens if/when OtsCorp is no longer?  Will our existing products no longer be licensable?
Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Darryl on December 02, 2016, 06:20:19 AM
To their credit, Ots Labs have provided fairly timely releases to support new versions of Windows.  It's only new (and promised once, long ago) features that are lacking.  As long as they have a revenue stream from their systems integration customer base, they will remain profitable. 

They have never really made good money out of mobile DJs - that's why Denon, Numark and so on bring out new products every year - the mobile DJ market is typically a young persons game and they want the latest shiniest fancy looking toys.  Also with hardware you have the advantage that it wears out eventually and has to be replaced - software doesn't.  I think this is why some of the software companies have teamed up with the hardware makers.

Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: Audioot on December 02, 2016, 09:40:06 AM
Quote from: Darryl on December 02, 2016, 06:20:19 AM
Also with hardware you have the advantage that it wears out eventually and has to be replaced - software doesn't. 

Actually it does, as operating systems evolve... I doubt the original OTSDJ will run on Windows 10 ;) but yes, it generally has a longer lifespan.


Title: Re: Has OTSDJ run its course?
Post by: markebenson on December 07, 2016, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: mixfm on November 25, 2016, 10:12:05 AM
I worry about that too!  That was my only concern when I bought into the Ots eco-system.  Don't get me wrong - I absolutely love the product, and I love the company.  But it's a good question to ask:  What happens if/when OtsCorp is no longer?  Will our existing products no longer be licensable?


I know what you mean thats why I have a cloned hard drive in case of failure. As computers get older you will be able to find your same setup brand new for next to nothing. , In case of failure as long as you take your cloned drive and put in same model computer it should work without issue. Now for those people that need to have the latest os i consider that their problem because ots a/v will work flawlessly on win 7 now and 20 years from now.