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The Social Zone! => The Lounge. No business, just chit chat. => Topic started by: Dj Buik on January 05, 2016, 10:28:33 PM

Title: Breakaway alternative
Post by: Dj Buik on January 05, 2016, 10:28:33 PM
As you maybe all know, i'm a big fan of the Breakaway audio processing tools.
There is one big disadvantage of the product, it is not updated for a long time.
(Sounds familiar?).
I found an alternative it's called Stereo Tool.
It's written by a Dutch guy (Hans van Zutphen) who is now also working
for the same company as the coder (Leif Claesson) of Breakaway.

His audio processing tool is last updated on december 2015 and is now on version 7.84.
This tool has a ton of options (much more than Breakaway).
One very nice feature is the Declipper. This feature de-clips very loud audio tracks.
This same feature is used in the Omnia 9, and is called: "Undo"
Look at this wiki page to learn about the "Loudness war"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war)

If you interested download his fully functional demo:
http://www.stereotool.com (http://www.stereotool.com)

When i have a little time i will make an step by step manual how to install this tool together with OtsAV.

And here is my second bonus link: a free (Donationware actually) Virtual Audio Cable tool.
http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable (http://vb-audio.pagesperso-orange.fr/Cable)
You need this to use Stereo Tool.

BTW: I'm not affiliated with these companies in any way, i'm just an audio freak like you all.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: Darryl on January 06, 2016, 09:21:14 PM
Thanks for the links Buik.  Breakaway does seem to have 'gone stale' recently.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: milky on December 14, 2016, 08:27:14 PM
Breakaway is back - bigger and more beautiful than ever. It has been re-badged as "BreakawayOne" and basically has all the functionality of the individual products bundled into the one piece of software. Similar to Ots, the type of licence you purchase determines which features are activated.

The new website, with demo version links is www.breakawayone.com (http://www.breakawayone.com).
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: Dj Buik on December 16, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
Awesome, at last a great upgrade.

Now wait for the Ots guys todo the same. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: Jigger on December 18, 2016, 05:40:07 AM
QuoteNow wait for the Ots guys todo the same.
Could be  a while
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: JAylmer on December 19, 2016, 05:54:41 PM
I have purchased two versions of Breakaway (including Live) but cannot use either due to excessive latency.
Many "audio only" applications this does not matter but with video it does.
I could never get the low latency mode to function and I tried many times, eventually suspecting hardware non-compatibility or code bugs.

It's a pity because I like what Breakaway can do especially its multichannel compressor.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: milky on December 19, 2016, 08:09:00 PM
Quote from: JAylmer on December 19, 2016, 05:54:41 PM
I have purchased two versions of Breakaway (including Live) but cannot use either due to excessive latency.
Many "audio only" applications this does not matter but with video it does.
I could never get the low latency mode to function and I tried many times, eventually suspecting hardware non-compatibility or code bugs.

It's a pity because I like what Breakaway can do especially its multichannel compressor.

BreakawayOne uses inbuilt ASIO so it will have the lowest latency possible, even if you soundcard doesn't have ASIO drivers. I assume that you are aware that you can set a global video delay in Ots? If you find that it is taking (say) 65ms to process the audio, simply set the video delay to 65ms.

If you own a Breakaway Live licence, the upgrade is free, so give the demo a try.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: JAylmer on December 19, 2016, 11:20:54 PM
Thanks Milky,

Video delay is what I need, all I know about is the Audio delay/video sync.
Where is the video delay adjustment??

Both my sound cards have ASIO drivers but none of them function correctly with Breakaway.

With the latest version of Breakaway and Win10 things may have changed so I will give it another go.

You have me rev'd up again.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: milky on December 21, 2016, 12:35:13 AM
The Audio Delay/Video Sync Calibration was what I meant. I have that on 65ms and the lip-sync is perfect.

I didn't find the built-in tool particularly helpful, but I did find that the Eagles Live Farewell 1 Tour (Live From Melbourne)/I Can't Tell You Why is a great track to use, because there are lot's of closeups of Timothy Schmidt's fingers on the bass and a good, strong downbeat.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: dickus51 on December 21, 2016, 09:43:33 AM
 :unsure: Cannot get the Breakaway one to work, distorsion an pumping sound only. Same computer in which I runned Breakaway Broadcast. To much to tinker so I am bewildered. Ots Radio is on the computer too. Maybe a tutorial so I can do someting step by step. Output via computer sondcard. Pipeline installed. I have a Lynx sondcard in the computer too but no cales as yet
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: JAylmer on December 23, 2016, 12:15:50 PM
Quote from: milky on December 21, 2016, 12:35:13 AM
The Audio Delay/Video Sync Calibration was what I meant. I have that on 65ms and the lip-sync is perfect.
My problem is that the audio is delayed too much already but I will try it just in case I don't understand something?

Enjoy Adelaide on Christmas day 40C, tipped to be he hottest place on the planet.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: milky on December 23, 2016, 01:59:34 PM
I am 250 ks inland from Adelaide, so hotter again. Love it.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: milky on December 23, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quote from: dickus51 on December 21, 2016, 09:43:33 AM
:unsure: Cannot get the Breakaway one to work, distorsion an pumping sound only. Same computer in which I runned Breakaway Broadcast. To much to tinker so I am bewildered. Ots Radio is on the computer too. Maybe a tutorial so I can do someting step by step. Output via computer sondcard. Pipeline installed. I have a Lynx sondcard in the computer too but no cales as yet
I need to know more information. Are you broadcasting, or just playing Ots in your listening environment? the new program is a massive learning curve, but worth the effort.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: dickus51 on December 23, 2016, 09:24:48 PM
I listen as my listening environment at home but the computer was intended as broadcast computer a i5 intel CPU so the power is there. I can hook upp the Lynx cards cables but have no adapter for the speakers. If it is needed for ASIO. Like I wrote the Broadcaster verison worked fine.

No hurry though as Chistmas is here I left it aside for awhile. So Merry Christmas to you all or if an other faith Happy Hollidays.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: dickus51 on January 19, 2017, 07:34:00 PM
Got it working but only through remote not as an app Great sound. Now only to buy the Management package.
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: milky on January 19, 2017, 09:08:39 PM
Strange that the real-time front end doesn't work. The remote option does the same thing, but interfaces directly with the service. Once you have it set up through "Run as service", what happens if you then close the service and launch it in real-time? It should pick up all the same settings, and therefore work either way.

I assume that you are using the HD core?
Title: Re: Breakaway alternative
Post by: dickus51 on January 21, 2017, 07:47:32 PM
You're so right, it is only I who have a learning curve. Reading all answers sets the brain in gear. Now working like it would have done in first place. Actually I have a licensed FM Basic.  :thumbsup: