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Title: a bad night.
Post by: key cabin on April 11, 2011, 08:30:20 AM
well let me tell you about my worst night of dj'ing ever,
turned up to do a suprise 65th birthday party, as usual i got there 30 mins early so i could set up in peace.
Got set up no problem untill i switched my computer on,ots loaded up no problem but i could'nt5 get any of my tracks to load into the play area, so i thought "relink them all that should sort the problem out, the birthday boy was 15 mins away and i had 140,000 tracks to relink.
well as you can imagine i only had a couple of cd's to help me out untill everything had relinked.
It took a good half hour the birthday boy was there the tracks had just finished linking and i finally started to pannick.
The hall was now full and everyone was looking at me to get the party up and running, i hit the save button and tried to drag some tracks into my play area, NOTHING :cussing:
After another hour i finaly got things up and running, what a night i never want another one like it.
Now i have an ots av with thousands of little blue ots men on my computer, how do i get rid of them all ?
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: DJ Postie on April 11, 2011, 09:12:39 AM
mmmmm that does suck - I always take along a backup computer (cheap $300 netbook) just in case of things like that happen................. Don't forget to test-run-load your main pc at home before ya gig just in case....................  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: milky on April 11, 2011, 09:18:58 AM
Oh dear. Were you using an external drive? If you are not careful, Windows will allocate a different drive letter and this will then not agree with the Ots database. You should allocate the drive letter yourself (I use "O" for Ots), and then, if ever it comes up with nothing to play, go into "Disk Management" and change to the letter you normally use.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: key cabin on April 11, 2011, 10:47:04 AM
Yep it was an external hard drive, it was probably the worst night of my life, i felt a complete prat stood up on a stage with little or no music. :1zhelp:
However the night did go OK, the lady phoned me next day to thank me for a good night and she would be booking me for future functions.
:djsmilie:
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: Jumpin' Jeff on April 11, 2011, 11:40:21 AM
When you plugged in the external drive, did you plug it into the exact same port you had it in previously? If not, it would most likely assign it a new drive letter, and unlink your tracks as milky stated. It's good to know exactly what drive letter is assigned to your Ots library, and check it on boot after you set everything up at a new location. It would take much less time to go into your admin tools, and reassign your drive letter than to relink 140k tracks. Less than a couple minutes if you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: Lane on April 11, 2011, 01:18:39 PM
I don't personally understand the whole 140k tracks thing. That's huge.

For my station, I have a smaller library of emergency music I keep on a USB Thumb Drive.  A 16GB thumb drive still gives me lots of tracks.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: Darryl on April 11, 2011, 03:04:02 PM
I use the two laptop approach myself - two laptops, two external hard drives.   The only thing I don't have two of is amp/speaker/mixer.  It's going to let me down one day so I'm going to invest in the smallest decent powered speaker I can find - it won't sound as good, but it would do the job.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: whisper on April 11, 2011, 05:26:36 PM
i keep about 40 gig of music on the laptop itself with the media library on the desktop...
that way if any problems with external drives...a quick click will load it up immediately.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: milky on April 11, 2011, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: whisper on April 11, 2011, 05:26:36 PM
i keep about 40 gig of music on the laptop itself with the media library on the desktop...
that way if any problems with external drives...a quick click will load it up immediately.


Yes, I do something similar. I have two copies of the OML file - one for the total collection on external (NAS) drive O: and one for the internal drive C: I've only used it on-air a couple of times when the network failed and the NAS became unreachable, but it was a lifesaver.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: nextgen1 on April 12, 2011, 05:07:22 AM
Backup Computer, Backup Hardrive, And in this case arriving a little earlier may have helped you. These are the types of things that drive me to bring and do all these things. All the things you talked about are the nightmares that I actually have. I had a ceremony were something odd happened with OTS. I know now it was my fault but at that time I had no options but to close out ots and use the small ots player to finish the ceremony and cocktail hour. The client knew nothing about my problem that I was having. But to say that I wasn't feeling a little pressured was an under statement. Never let them see you sweat. )
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: Jigger on April 12, 2011, 05:40:41 AM
QuoteAfter another hour i finally got things up and running, what a night i never want another one like it.
Now i have an ots av with thousands of little blue ots men on my computer, how do i get rid of them all ?
Do you mean grey ots icons
If this is the case they may be unavailable in your media library click the drop down you will see unavailable items select that then right click and select all right click again and click remove.
With what has happened to you if the above is the case you should have Yellow Ots Icons and Grey Ots Icons in your media library the grey ones are the unavailable ones, Make sure this is the case before removing anything.If in doubt post back with more details.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: milky on April 12, 2011, 05:58:54 AM
Quote from: Jigger on April 12, 2011, 05:40:41 AM
Do you mean grey ots icons
If this is the case they may be unavailable in your media library click the drop down you will see unavailable items select that then right click and select all right click again and click remove.
With what has happened to you if the above is the case you should have Yellow Ots Icons and Grey Ots Icons in your media library the grey ones are the unavailable ones, Make sure this is the case before removing anything.If in doubt post back with more details.

Note that you MAY lose your categories and last played information if you delete the original tracks and leave the newly scanned tracks.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: key cabin on April 12, 2011, 02:34:46 PM
I have only been a member of this forum for a couple of months but the help that i have recieved has been invaluable, and once again you chaps have come to the rescue.
Thank you for all your help and sugestions. i personaly like the idea of popping some music on a memory stick or a nights worth of music on your hard drive.
I will be sorting this out before this weekend.

Cheers lads. :cool2: :Clap2: :Clap2: :Clap2:
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: Vinny H on May 23, 2011, 08:52:05 PM
Quote from: Lane on April 11, 2011, 01:18:39 PM
I don't personally understand the whole 140k tracks thing. That's huge.

For my station, I have a smaller library of emergency music I keep on a USB Thumb Drive.  A 16GB thumb drive still gives me lots of tracks.

I actually like this idea and will be looking into this emergency backup.  Was wondering what songs would be included on this emergency music drive.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: Lane on May 23, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
you probably know your most requested tunes. and what you think would keep folks happy. i'm a radio guy, not a mobile DJ, so I don't need to worry about requests so much anyway. i personally put a whole lot of extra canadian content on mine, giving those people a bit of a bump during a maintenance cycle at the station.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: Vinny H on May 23, 2011, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Lane on May 23, 2011, 09:19:46 PM
you probably know your most requested tunes. and what you think would keep folks happy. i'm a radio guy, not a mobile DJ, so I don't need to worry about requests so much anyway. i personally put a whole lot of extra canadian content on mine, giving those people a bit of a bump during a maintenance cycle at the station.
And I use Ots for DJing so yeah, I'm sure I could come up with something.  The radio station where I work we use totally different program.
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: tower on July 03, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
I guess most VJ's using Ots have the collection on an external drive when using a Laptop, for unless you add a 1TB internal drive (and only the top end laptops are large enough to let you do this) you will not have room for your collection.   I too do not understand how anyone can have more than say 38,000 Tracks in an Ots Collection without major duplications.   My collection, which started the year I got my first gig back in 1967 is 38,300 or so tracks of which only 7500 are Video, 12700 Karaoke and the remainder audio only, but there are less than 0.1% duplicates left and all the rubbish has been weeded out, except of course the current stuff.    The collection is growing at between 5 to 10GB per month depending on how many Promo Only or MixMash DVD's and CD's come in.

I have managed to upgrade an Acer 8943 to 1.75 TB internal hard drive space so the collection fits in side the laptop which gets round the drive not found error you must of had before Ots did not let you load any song into the decks or play.    YOU must check before the gig by looking at the file window on your external drive that the drive letter is what it was when you indexed the collection on Ots.   Drive F is a fav letter but it can change to say G if you have for example a USB flash drive in one of the ports, or have changed the external USB port your hard drive normally plugs into, or altered your laptop in any way, for example making a Virtual DVD drive or something like that.

Then it is a lot quicker to use windows Administrative Tools/Computer Management/Storage/Disc Management to change the external drive letter back again to F or what ever letter it should be.   Setting it to O is a very good idea by the way.

Quickest way to find the above is:

START then enter in the search box Disc Management then look at the list and click on create and format hard disc partitions   DON'T worry you will NOT be doing that.   From the graphics display find your external hard drive from the list and then use the CHANGE drive Letter and Paths option and set the external hard drive back to F or whatever letter is was before when Ots refreshed or indexed your collection then re start Ots and Volla your collection is back again.

Best thing to do is practise this a few times at home when the pressure is off.   Change your external drive letter and then load Ots and see what happens... Yeah the exact same problem you had at the gig... Then change it back again (The drive letter that is) and bingo... you are becoming a computer whiz... or nerd..  Be very careful as nerds can have a tough time at gigs hi... :)
Title: Re: a bad night.
Post by: DJ Nikki on October 11, 2011, 12:44:42 AM
We had ours all on a rocket pod external harddrive and rarely had an issue, but we followed the advise of veteran DJ's here and made backups of every song we owned in ots format, in case something crashed and we had to completely reload. Those CD's came in handy to pop into the CDG triple deck and let them run til the pc issue was fixed. Dave also went ahead and cataloged all of the music by catagory then by artist on paper so we would be able to function completely without the pc if need be. Our couple of issues was purely the PC...not ots itself.