Overall I like the new interface but as there is only support for the same 2 controllers at the moment, any ideas when OTS will release support for other controllers. Been happily using my Mixtrack Pro ( which is also my sound card ) with ots for ages. OHML file doesn't work on Esperance:-( So no point upgrading to the full version at the moment for me :-(
Judging from what was said it shouldn't be too long
Ya! My Numark MixTrack pro doesn't work anymore and im kind of disappointed because some of the buttons are just too small... I need it like TODAY! Not in a few months!
Existing controller scripts should still work, albeit without the new functionality. Are you sure you have the MIDI config panel set correctly?
I had this problem, just re-download the mixtrack v2 script and re install. Works fine for me ( with the same control as before ).
Has anyone worked on an update for MixTrack Pro...????
All officially supported controllers will be updated in several days (apart from Denon ones which are already done and packaged in current version).
There will also be two new Hercules controllers introduced and then another three Hercules controllers added sometime after that.
When they are updated/added they will be uploaded to this page:
http://www.otsav.com/midi-hardware-control-maps/
Ots_Steve
any chance that ots can supply the midi script to light up a1 & a2 when in loop also the a1 &a2 in the display
and please remove the delete from library as i nearly removed files out of the library
Quote from: Ots_Steve on August 03, 2012, 02:46:52 PM
All officially supported controllers will be updated in several days (apart from Denon ones which are already done and packaged in current version).
There will also be two new Hercules controllers introduced and then another three Hercules controllers added sometime after that.
When they are updated/added they will be uploaded to this page:
http://www.otsav.com/midi-hardware-control-maps/
Ots_Steve
Any chance the Ddenon MC6000 could be supported with 48khz sampling. This is one of the best controllers out there but currently i can only use it as a mixer with my HC4500 as the controller.
Edit: I fixed your quote - Darryl
The Denon MC6000 has always been planned to be supported in the 2nd Esperance release (not including any minor maintenance releases inbetween).
It requires changes in the actual OtsAV core code to support its driver.
Ots_Steve
Quote from: Ots_Steve on August 05, 2012, 05:39:07 AM
The Denon MC6000 has always been planned to be supported in the 2nd Esperance release (not including any minor maintenance releases inbetween).
It requires changes in the actual OtsAV core code to support its driver.
Ots_Steve
My MC6000 is jealous of my HC4500 & keeps flashing it's eyes at my new OtsAVDJ 1.9 :icon_lol:
I want an MC6000 too, so I'm looking forward to this.
never used an mc6000, but looking at it,, I prefer the layout of the important buttons on the hc4500 in relation to the jog wheel, ie pitch and play pause are in a better position imo...
i think we're lucky to have the 4500, it really is a great piece of kit, for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would choose to use OTS without one....
My mixer (Bose Tonematch) doesn't have sliders, so I want a controller with volume sliders/cross fader. The Denon build quality (and 14 bit precision pitch sliders) are what I like about these controllers.
Quote from: jeff wood on August 05, 2012, 10:27:32 AM
never used an mc6000, but looking at it, I prefer the layout of the important buttons on the hc4500 in relation to the jog wheel, ie pitch and play pause are in a better position imo...
Button positioning is ok for me, apart from the functions the weight (light) & onboard 4ch mixer are a massive +
I already have mine mapped for OTS & I currently use it for my quizzes, it's perfect for picture rounds & audio/video rounds, plus i can throw it in a backpack with my laptop.
Quote from: jeff wood on August 05, 2012, 10:27:32 AM
i think we're lucky to have the 4500, it really is a great piece of kit, for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would choose to use OTS without one....
100% agree ... until OTS coding supports the MC6000 driver
I'll be sticking with my hc4500 and formula sound fsm400 :icon_lol:
And what I mean is,,,its nice for the 4500 to have the play pause buttons to the left of the jog wheel,,
Looks a bit tricky to mix with the pitch fader being a bit more of a arm stretch to reach , and youve got more room around the pitch fader,,,the mc6000 looks a bit cluttered.
But hey,,as you point out, its very convinient.
The other controllers I would like to have seen support for is pioneers, I probably would have bought a pair of cdj900's..
or even a Sep C1 is a lovely controller...
I'd love to see support for the Pioneer SEP-1. That'll look lovely with my djm5000 :thumbsup:
Quote from: jeff wood on August 05, 2012, 10:27:32 AM
never used an mc6000, but looking at it,, I prefer the layout of the important buttons on the hc4500 in relation to the jog wheel, ie pitch and play pause are in a better position imo...
i think we're lucky to have the 4500, it really is a great piece of kit, for the life of me I can't understand why anyone would choose to use OTS without one....
The MC6000 is a natural progression from the HC4500. It's everything you need in one unit. Controller & Mixer. Added advantage of a cross fader & chanel faders which is the one thing i missed on the hc4500. But now that I have been able to get rid of my mixer I can get the 4500 & 6000 into one flight case!
yeah a friend of mine was dj ing in the other suite at my regular hotel on saturday, and he had an mc6000 with VDJ,,, must say its a nice unit, looked smart...
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Quote from: Ots_Steve on August 05, 2012, 05:39:07 AM
The Denon MC6000 has always been planned to be supported in the 2nd Esperance release (not including any minor maintenance releases inbetween).
It requires changes in the actual OtsAV core code to support its driver.
Ots_Steve
Ots_Steve, is there at least an approximate time-frame for when the second Esperance release will be? Weeks, months?
Personally, with what's remaining to come out in the original release notes, I would consider it months. Especially if updating the core code to function with the 48khz system. I've heard many great things about the MC6000. If I were stil active, I might have considered getting one to replace my Xponent. As it stands, the Xponent is more than enough controller for me at this time.
The Denon DN MC6000 is a great unit. I'm anxiously awaiting to be able to use it with Ots too. There's only a few things I like about Esperance, but I figure I won't go backwards because it will be paired with the MC6000 soon enough.
Quote from: Greg Frasier on August 15, 2012, 03:14:21 AM
The Denon DN MC6000 is a great unit. I'm anxiously awaiting to be able to use it with Ots too. There's only a few things I like about Esperance, but I figure I won't go backwards because it will be paired with the MC6000 soon enough.
Agreed! I am currently using the HC4500 with the X500 but I own an MC6000 as well. The nice thing about the 6000 is that it weighs about 10 pounds. The 4500 with the x500 weigh about 23 pounds, so going with the 6000 shaves about 13 pounds of weight off your cabinet. My back isn't getting any younger and I too am anxiously awaiting Ots support for the MC6000.
I'm now using the MC3000. It seems to fit my needs rather well. I'm gigging with it tonight, so I'll let you all know how it went afterwards.
Me too waiting for support for my MC6000 as my console 3 is gathering dust........................
Quote from: Darryl on August 15, 2012, 07:50:59 AM
I'm now using the MC3000. It seems to fit my needs rather well. I'm gigging with it tonight, so I'll let you all know how it went afterwards.
How did you handle the 44/48 KHz issue? With Breakaway?
I was wondering if you could get it to work with Virtual Audio Cable (VAC) as a sampler converter 44->48 only.
I'd be interested if anyone can get "old school mode" to work with MC3000 or 6000 as well. I've tried asio4all and breakaway dj and can't get it to work.
Quote from: Darryl on August 15, 2012, 07:50:59 AM
I'm now using the MC3000. It seems to fit my needs rather well. I'm gigging with it tonight, so I'll let you all know how it went afterwards.
How did it go Darryl?
I use MC-6000 regularly for my quiz nights, alas it's not perfect with the current 44/48 KHz issue. So how did the 3000 handle it?
The mc3000 was fine except I knocked the cross fader accidentally a couple if times when using the faders to duck the music volume for talking. I accidentally skipped to the next track while editing the ticker because I pressed ctrl+right to select a line.
I really miss being able to scroll the media library window. The mouse scroll on my trackpad doesn't work and clicking under the thumb in the scroll bar doesn't go down a page like in a normal scroll bar. I often browse the media library looking for things to play and always did this with the mouse. I'll just hand to get used to using the keyboard instead.
Quote from: Darryl on August 16, 2012, 07:31:52 PM
The mc3000 was fine except I knocked the cross fader accidentally a couple if times .............
So it handles 44KHz in old school mode?
I'm only using it as a controller. I've never used old school mode.
never used old school mode ?????
thats the best thing about OTS and the HC 4500
The MC3000 has a crossfader and the output from Ots AV goes pre-mixed into one channel on my Bose ToneMatch mixer - I've never had any use for Old School mode - that and there was no Old School Mode in Ots Juke when I got it!
Does anyone know how to get a Numark Mixdeck Express working with OTS?
Flippant answer: Plug it in and write an OHML file.
Serious answer: Check the specs in the Manual first (they are all online so you don't have to buy it before you work out what it can do). Compare its functionality to one of the controllers that Ots labs wrote an OHML file for and decide whether you want to take the plunge. PLug it into your computer, run OtsAV and configure it to use the controller with a copy of the nearest matching OHML file and start pressing buttons and turning knobs and see what comes out of the controller in the Ots AV MIDI Hardware Configuration dialog box debug MIDI field. From there you can start to replace the original values in the Ots OHML file with the corresponding values from your controller - test the functionality works to your satisfaction then repeat for all the other controls. Finally find the MIDI commands to turn on/off the lights on your controller and update the OHML with those MIDI values.
Now the good bit: We are more than happy to help you with this process should you decide to go ahead. There are other threads on here where we have given users a kick start and they've gone off and produced whole new OHML files. You could be the next - they are a little fiddly, but not seriously complicated.
Quote from: jeff wood on August 13, 2012, 09:57:23 AM
yeah a friend of mine was dj ing in the other suite at my regular hotel on saturday, and he had an mc6000 with VDJ,,, must say its a nice unit, looked smart...
I've been using this setup for a year and 1/2. I use Ots for what it's good for, the listening half of the night.
Then I dash out and open Virtual DJ and mix for the rest of the night. The compressor/limitor isn't good, but I don't care, I control the volume myself. That's what we did prior to Ots anyway. The beat grid isn't 100% on some tracks, but I don't care, I use the pitch control like I always did prior to going with Ots in 2001 anyway.
I get to actually control my music again. I also enjoy using the "compatible" feature to find my next song. And on the MC6000 controller, I love using the effects and looping.
Quote from: Greg Frasier on August 15, 2012, 03:14:21 AM
The Denon DN MC6000 is a great unit. I'm anxiously awaiting to be able to use it with Ots too. There's only a few things I like about Esperance, but I figure I won't go backwards because it will be paired with the MC6000 soon enough.
I notice that I wrote that in August of last year. I'm glad I didn't actually wait for this to happen. I forced myself to learn everything about the 6000 with Virtual. Looping, Beat grid, sorting easily by the year, key, bpm, or whatever else I want. There is the sound effect section that allows me to remix music live. About 6 or 7 of those I use every night. I enjoy having full control of my music with the controller. The tempo/key/BPM all sound great. The list goes on. Everyone used to say "if Ots doen't do it all for you then move on". I did and I'm so glad I did.
I can't wait for support for the MC6000 (hopefully before I retire) :P
Ots stated it would happen in the next major release after Esperance. I just wonder how many maintenance releases will occur before the next "major" release. This August will mark 3 years since the release of the MC6000. I realize Ots has to re-code their software for 48khz interfacing, but how long? I understand they strive for stability and reliability and I do appreciate that. It's just frustrating lugging heavy gear around gig after gig knowing that I could shave off about 12 pounds of weight by replacing my mixer/controller with the 6000. I tried Traktor but couldn't stand the "sound" of it at a live gig, so I had to go back to Ots. They definitely spoiled me with the Intelligent fading and the Dynamic Compressor. I've considered trying Traktor with Breakaway DJ, but I don't really want to abandon Ots. Ots is not for the impatient person :P
OK, done venting for now. I will rejoice the day Ots supports the MC6000 and I will throw a HUGE party IF Ots ever supports Mac! (I know, not likely).
Well I have given up waiting for support for my MC6000 and sold it :pi_cry: :pi_cry:
Still using my HC4500s with Ots 1.85 though and loving the old school mode. I'm really lovin my iDJ Pro as well :thumbsup:
Going on the features my last Denon controller worked with Ots (without changing code), I doubt Ots will be very useful with the 6000. To be honest, if Ots would allow the use of their audio engine with other software, I would have stopped using it years ago. When I went digital early on, I wasn't thinking about the fact that Ots would become the DJ and I would end up clicking play..no creativity. Since adding Virtual, I feel a connection with my crowd again.
Quote from: Greg Frasier on April 24, 2013, 03:19:36 AM
Since adding Virtual, I feel a connection with my crowd again.
That is how I feel about Traktor. I just wish I could get that "sound" out of other software that Ots has (agc and compressor)
That's the problem because there is no one perfect software.
Any news yet ? Could do with my mc6000 working with it too
I asked ots if or when they was going to finish the looping & karaoke for the denon 4500 they said no updates this year
Quote from: Ots_Steve on August 05, 2012, 05:39:07 AM
The Denon MC6000 has always been planned to be supported in the 2nd Esperance release (not including any minor maintenance releases inbetween).
It requires changes in the actual OtsAV core code to support its driver.
Ots_Steve
5 years on and we're still waiting........I know things don't happen quickly in Ots World but this and lack of any other updates is beyond a joke.
Any idea Ots_Steve when this will happen?
I just got an email and it said any purchases would be 100% compatible with the upcoming Ots release. Fingers crossed this new release provides better (and/or more) controller support.